"You'll never get into a place like that [MIT]. Why don't you apply to Pierce Junior College?"* Miss Bivens, 12th grade English teacher, WH Taft High School, Woodland Hills, California.

*In those days affectionately known as "Cow Tech"

Pat Burke, an assistant to the Portland Schools superintendent dismissed Satinover's book as "bad science." Such a book, he asserted, "...probably would not be accepted by the district."

"[W]orse than laughable...thoughtless and simple-minded...[as] immoral [as] Dr. Josef Mengele."

Mike Airhart.

"IF he is such an expert, one wonders why...his published papers appear in the vanity press [sic].
L. Michael Roberts (none@NoSpamThanks.net)"

"The fact that Jew homophobe William Kristol wrote the introduction is a dead giveaway that this book is just another attempt to defame." anon.

[Dr. Laura] Schlessinger [is]...beyond the pale because she frequently cite[s] the writings of Dr. Jeffrey Satinover whose work is based largely on the intellectually dishonest research of [a] crackpot and hatemonger [sic]. Scoobie Davis

"Please ask The Norwalk Hour...what could have motivated them to pander to such a snake oil salesman and doomsayer as Dr. Jeffrey Satinover in the first place." marriage-digest@abacus.oxy.edu ("Talking back to a Quack")

"Dr. Satinover wouldn't be one of those "intellectuals" who use there [sic] academic credentials to publish books on sensationalistic topics to make more money would he?"

"His diploma probably came out of a cereal box" richmann@cmt.anl.gov

MR. LOCKHART: "I think the President [Clinton] supports the bill that he signed, but I think he thought the proposition there was unnecessary and divisive..."

Q: "How does he feel about the Centers for Disease Control, which is now terming homophobia a health risk...? Yale psychiatrist Jeffrey Satinover says, 'This is a corruption of the medical process; opinions are not diseases, except to dictators." Does he think that... "

MR. LOCKHART: "That is way too complicated a question for someone of limited means like me."

Q: "Well, does [the President] think that homophobia is a health risk, Joe?"

MR. LOCKHART: "Let's keep going."

"Satinover doesn't have a clue about what science is, or how it works....[His books are] full of lies and calculated distortions."  bgarrett@pobox.com

"Look at the Board of Directors for the organization: Satinover, Socarides, Nicolosi and the other chairmen [sic]. Everyone  is a fundamentalist Protestant or a conservative Catholic [sic]" Little Lulu (tutu_boutique@hotmail.com)

"How is this one Dr Jeffrey Satinover more credible than the many *actual* researchers?" Lee Harrison (leehrsn@amaonline.com)

"...dreadful book, full of gross distortion and unbounded ignorance... cleverly constructed propaganda...hogwash...ridiculous...shows total ignorance of ancient astronomy...nothing except factual errors and biased presentation...An absolute disgrace...Nearly everything he writes about me is wrong...In other words, Satinover's book is worse than useless...Unfortunately I couldn't get a copy of that book without paying for it... " Brendan McKay bdm@cs.anu.edu.au

Jungian physics written by a psychologist [sic] with a theological slant...no really new ideas if you bother keeping up with the current literature about physics, cosmology, artificial intelligence, etc. ...nonsense."

"For a book I’m writing, I happen to have read Satinover’s work. [He is] a quack...[a] hate-filled crank... [who] believes that the most effective policy for...all gay men...is a fundamentalist religious conversion and that the Renaissance killed off Judaeo-Christianity’s hegemony in favor of modern science." andrew@andrewsullivan.com

"Preposterous... hardly original." Robert A. Segal, department of religious studies at Lancaster University in England, editor of The Gnostic Jung and The Allure of Gnosticism.

"[I]n a speech presented to Capital Hill ...Dr. Jeffrey Satinover,... [a r]adical, anti-gay advocate...stated that 'the belief that homosexuality is ‘biological’ or ‘genetic’ causes people to develop more positive attitudes toward it.'  Indeed, this is what research has uncovered. But [the] adoption of only environmental explanations can not be divorced from [his] radical, right-wing politics."  joshua8@ipsystems.com

"[A]wful rubbish...made me bug-eyed in disbelief. Bad science, sad writing. Spare yourself." Dr. R. Whitaker from London, United Kingdom

"...incompetent and unethical..." Jeremy Towsley jtownsle@iupui.edu

 "Issue-savvy...Jeffrey Satinover...immediately saw religious controversy as a profitable endeavor. ...[The] personal ramblings of the mathematically obtuse...cloaked in the impressive linguistics of 'science.'" David Pitton, info@egospels.com

"Homophobic quack, who thinks he is a Dr." thekiller99@my-deja.com (thekiller99@my-deja.com

"Trotting out the same lame Satinover agitprop, eh?" Arne Langsetmo (zuch@ix.netcom.com)

"This the blind leading the blind [sic]. See how they run. Anyone who says "Quantum Brain" is clueless. He is also I think a high level Intelligence analyst. But he does not know enough physics for the problem. Is my name in the book? If not, it should be remaindered. :-) Waste of money for...the conceptually disadvantaged." Jack Sarfatti, PhD, http://stardrive.org

"Sounds terrible. I wouldn't get close to something with such a title." Lior Fainshil (sf_liorf@bezeqint.net_nospam)

"..discredited 'research' cited by...zealots such as William Bennett and Dr. Laura Schlesinger" [in the company of]...manifestly dishonest...Ann Coulter and...cut-and-paste hatchet-job...Barbara Olson {who died on the hijacked plane crashed into the pentagon while reporting on the events to her husband, solicitor-general Ted Olsen}]. http://scoobiedavis.blogspot.com/2002_07_01_scoobiedavis_archive.html

"A royal flush of fakes and deludos. A few nut jobs choose to believe the ravings of Satinover...[an] egregious quack while... EVERY reputable scientific voice in the WORLD, firmly finds otherwise.  Pitiful! ...NOTHING of his or his associates is free of an all but psychotic taint of irrationality." Ward Stewart wstewart@hawaii.rr.com

Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
glaad@glaad.org, http://www.glaad.org/org/topics/index.html?topic=105,
Personalities and Public Figures / Opponents
Alveda Celeste King
Angie Winans and Debbie Winans (Winans Sisters)
Ben Wright
Bob Dornan
Charlton Heston
Dick Armey
Dr. Jeffrey Satinover
G. Gordon Liddy
J. Edgar Hoover
James Dobson
Jesse Helms
John O'Connor
Laura Schlessinger ("Dr. Laura")
Newt Gingrich
Ralph Reed
Reggie White
Rush Limbaugh
Sonny Bono
Stephen Covey

"[N]ot well-known in the scientific community."
Subject: Re: Help required - re Press Complaints Commission

(Newsgroups: uk.gay-lesbian-bi)

"The hair on the back of my neck started to stand up.  Then came the fateful words, 'Dr. Jeffery [sic] Satinover.'  She... slobbered all over his qualifications. if she drags out the book by Dr. Satinover one more time, I'm going to vomit. "  (dkinsman@sympatico.ca)

"The Boy Wonder spokesperson of poor, sad, tiny NARTH" James Doemer (bigtoe@provide.net)

Psychologist [sic] Jeffrey Satinover states that gay kids are the result of beatings and bad relationships with their parents. This mean[s] that we elected a mentally defective savager of children to the office of President! (And to think that folks got all upset over Clinton)"  (dionisio@infinet.com)

"It got worse. Dr. Laura again plugged Jeffrey Satinover's wretched book 'Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth.' (DL called it brilliant.)"  cmartin1133@my-deja.com (cmartin1133@my-deja.com)

"{Michael Dov-Ber Weissmandl has enjoyed a certain retroactive popularity as a result of Jeffrey Satinover's latest piece of drivel, The Torah Codes or the Bible Codes (not sure)." Delia Candle (candle55@mindspring.com)

"Re: Age of Consent. I was looking again at last July's debate in the House of Lords and came across the speech of Lord Quirk. He was quoting a Dr. Jeffery [sic] Satinover [who] appears to be a loon.  Could we get a friendly Lord or Lady armed with the correct references in case Quirk tries a repeat performance? Just a thought..."  Laurence Jupp (alice@bits.bris.ac.uk)

"What I'd thought was a direct product of that little illegal orthodox settlement of Ariel's Housing Ministry...was really laundered by this Satinover..., and relied primarily upon the authors of the...hoax." Brian Quincy Hutchings (QncyMI@netscape.net)

"Most Psychiatrists would hesitate at sending their dogs to Satinover for toilet training...Most psychologists would admit that...Satinover...ha[s an] agenda that [is] strongly held and drived [sic] by his Christian[sic] right beliefs." thomgr@earthlink.net

"He paused then went on. 'Ye see, Gunny, once they take the bait, the play is really over. The Ducks will never forget it. Back in 1911, Dobie planted the seed...It's in your DNA.' His voice had gotten so raspy it sounded like a rotating fan chewing up paper. Then he chanted this verse,

(From The Border War by Richard Linde. http://www.4malamute.com)

"slack-jawed "--Brian Quincy Hutchings (QncyMI@netscape.net)

"Satinover's apparent [sic] understanding of the role of the state is implausible." in NO PROMO HOMO: THE SEDIMENTATION OF ANTIGAY DISCOURSE AND THE CHANNELING EFFECT OF JUDICIAL REVIEW by WILLIAM N. ESKRIDGE, JR, John A. Garver Professor of Jurisprudence, Yale Law School william.eskridge@yale.edu

"Satinover [is]...simply eaten up...malignant narcissism...very dark...exceedingly ugly...extremely inflammatory...ridiculously simple...Great minds...great egos....bloody disputes. I [on the other hand] was raised the son of a Protestant minister, consequently my manners are absolutely impeccable...My deepest interest...seems to be leading me toward the path of the shaman."

"Neither do I plan to do any arm wrestling."

--Paul Shirley, author of The Stop Walking on Eggshells Workbook: Practical Strategies for Living With Someone Who Has Borderline Personality Disorder.  http://www.toddlertime.com/paul/index.htm

Question: as I approach this discussion from the side, I haven't read this Satinover person.   Do you think that he's worth reading (for humor value, perhaps?), or should I not bother?
"I would say this [his ideas] may be ain [sic] to the "inaliable" [sic] rights of man [sic] described in the Declaration of Independence. [But he has] an inordinant [sic] fondness for shock phrases an[sic] innuendo...calculated to have a visceral impact...lurid images of people being turned into automatons...He sneers at...evidence...by insinuating that there has been a deliberate effort to fabricate such evidence out of a desire to negate responsibility [sic]...[C]ontent to...cast aspersions...over and over again he alludes to some sort of conspiratorial agenda to deprive mankind of its innate freedom... prefering[sic] to insinuate that this viewpoint was..the predefined goal of science. Over and over again he decries...he finds it demeaning....he sees it as an affront...[B]eyond insulting...he offers no...rebuttal.  He offers nothing...He offers us no reason. He doesn't like...science...essentially vacuuous [sic] and lacking in merit. Normally I wouldn't recommend reading it, but...it would not surprise me if we start seeing pieces of this document (as well as distortions thereof) filtering in...Remember, forewarned is forearmed."

"Bear...in mind that I'm not quoting him directly, but rather extrapolating this position..."  Andrew Lias (anrwlias@shell.)

"I've found no indication...that lends any legitimacy to his research or views as a scientist." dk (dkinsman@sympatico.ca)

"totally fallacious…legerdemain…Why not simply start with the evident fact of free will?" Stephen Barr, Bartol Research Institute, 15942@udel.edu

"Satinover...and his co-authors distort and exaggerate more than 40 years of social science research." Peter M. Nardi, Professor of Sociology, Pitzer College Claremont, Calif.

"hatred and bile...Contradicts his own findings in his writings"
J. Northwood (jonathan@northwood.uce_is_icky.org)

"If all these initiatives happen, [it] may explain the desparation [sic] of our old enemies...Predictably, Logan ends his monograph with the same old junk science...Norman Geisler, David Noebel (1984?!?!!??) Jeffrey Satinover " pinkadder@my-deja.com (pinkadder@my-deja.com)

"Junk science and abandoned pseudo-psychoanalytic goobledegook [sic] ad nauseum (Unlike fundies who still have bad haircuts and wear crap seventies polyester)." fundiekiller@my-deja.com (fundiekiller@my-deja.com)

Satinover pops up in so many places, though, that I see red flashing when I see that name.  Maybe the guy is the Steven Hawking of psychology/psychiatry, (and statistics).winslow_l@my-deja.com (winslow_l@my-deja.com)

Same shit, different day. MADG (tl_madg@my-deja.com)

"Jeffrey Satinover is a big cheese at the Family Research Council [sic].
We have heard of Jeffrey Satinover in this country, as Lord Quirk quoted him in the debate over the age of consent...Satinover's beliefs are at variance with just about the entire medical profession." Laurence Jupp (alice@bits.bris.ac.uk)

"...a cataclysmic quack, throbbing with homophobia and is an advocate for "reparative therapy" designed to separate the frightened patient from his money." Ward Stewart (wstewart@hawaii.rr.com)

"...fundamentalist subculture luminary." Mark Proffit (proffitt@iprolink.co.nz)

I don't have time to read every book written by some...loon.  I'm still laughing over the...joke that Satinover published. frank w elliott jr (elliott@PROBLEM_WITH_YOUR_MAIL_GATEWAY_FILE.nyu.edu)